[Irl-dean] documents re inclusion policy

[Joshue O Connor]

Hi Rahim,

Thanks for your reply. I am not a die hard-cynic (thank God!!) but 
rather an idealist battered by experience which unfortunately can lead 
to cynicism and inertia. I do have hope - and I know that many in 
government/civil service are doing their best often within a limiting 
and trying framework.  But there is a right road and a wrong road and a 
need for informed and judicious choices to be made.

>I must add that a lot of pilot projects, which are run by different organisations or grants like aids and appliances seem to be a short term solution,
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Very much so - though many are excellent and forward thinking.

>when these are obsolete were do we go from there
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Do you mean when the pilots are over?? If so, yes, the service users are 
left high and dry, scrambling then for whatever other services they can 
get. An awful situation.

>at the moment I am looking at policies from an international level, and then this will move on to European and back to national, e.g. Ireland
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It would be great to get an overview from you as to what other models 
are in operation around the EU and the rest of the world and compare 
them to see what works and what doesn't. If you could feedback some of 
your findings to the list that would be excellent!!

Best Regards and good luck.

Joshue O Connor

Web Accessibility Consultant

**Centre for Inclusive Technology (CFIT)* *
National Council for the Blind of Ireland

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ithRahim Nazarali wrote:

>	Hi Joshua  I would have to very much agree with your cynicism at the best of times even if policies are introduced by interested governments or ministers, its a matter of enforcing them and building on them, I must add that a lot of pilot projects, which are run by different organisations or grants like aids and appliances seem to be a short term solution, but when these are obsolete were do we go from there, Clearer policies  without an opt out claws need to be implemented not to give service providers the opportunity to    go back on their word   on policies are guidelines which exist, well at the moment I am looking at policies from an international level, and then this will move on to European and back to national, e.g. Ireland., thank you very much for your good wishes.
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>Rahim
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>Hi Rahim,
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>Welcome to the list. I would be very interested in seeing what you come 
>up with in your research especially with regards to
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>>inclusion policies for  people with disabilities , which may state that people with disabilities have the right to vocational training and assistive technology
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>It would be interesting to research policy "gaps" or other missing parts 
>parts of the policy jigsaw. I am a bit of a cynic and have a tendency to 
>balk at the introduction of more "white papers" and "policies". If half 
>of the policies and laws in this county were actually enforced we would 
>be a model society - and unfortunately it's the weaker members of 
>society who get the chop when there is an "economic downturn" or some 
>such,  regardless of policy.
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>This begs the question - Is it possible to have mechanisms in place that 
>can last longer than a government's term in office or an interested 
>ministers shelf life? The needs of people with disabilities will still 
>need to be served long after names of current government members are but 
>memories.
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>In my experience this area is totally dependent on funding and when Aids 
>& Appliances run out of money - it's game over until next year - and 
>then the Health Board is playing catch up with AT/home modification 
>requirements that are "essential" and often delivered too late (if at all).
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>This is however an important area for all of us to be aware of and at 
>the last Irl Dean meeting we were given a very informative overview of 
>the current government commitment such as the Equal Status Act, the 
>Disabilities bill etc. Taken in isolation they may not add up to much 
>but viewed as a continuum I can only hope that they will be instrumental 
>in bringing about lasting positive change.
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>I'd like to wish you the best of luck with your research and please keep 
>us up to date with your findings.
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>Best Regards
>
>Joshue O Connor
>
>Web Accessibility Consultant
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>**Centre for Inclusive Technology (CFIT)* *
>National Council for the Blind of Ireland
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>joshue.oconnor at ncbi.ie +353 1 8821915
>
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>Rahim Nazarali wrote:
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>>Hi all  I am a researcher with the Client Technical services in the Central Remedial Clinic and I have been receiving  emails from this list for the last two weeks, I must say some of the information that is being generated amongst the subscribers  is quiet informative.  Firstly just to say a little bit about myself, My name is Rahim Nazarali, I just bought a house in Baldoil, and besides working I like to keep fit, Running, cycling and any other sports that are a challenge.   and then there is  the usual socialising.   I completed a degree   in social science in 2002 from UCD, I have been working in the disability sector for the last two years in the area of research, firstly with the NTDI and presently with the Client Technical services in the Central Remedial Clinic.  I just completed my masters in Rehabilitation in July.     At the moment I am conducting some documentary research, and I am looking for information  around the domain of health in relation to inclusion policies for  people with disabilities , which may state that people with disabilities have the right to vocational training and assistive technology, This can be direct or indirect, I just thought that I might  throw it out there and see what might come back
>>Thank you very much.
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>>Rahim Nazarali
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