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[Irl-dean] U N e-accessibility Day, dec. 3rd

Mark Magennis Mark.magennis at ncbi.ie
Wed Aug 23 11:04:31 IST 2006


That would be an excellent idea Vivienne. Whether it would be at the  
same event or whether we would organise something separate, I don't  
know. Let me think about it and get back to you in a few days and we  
can discuss it.

Mark

On 23 Aug 2006, at 08:12, vivienne trulock wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am teaching students web design & accessibility to diploma level.
> They would benefit greatly from seeing real users using assistive
> technology etc as this is an area I am unable to cover in class. Would
> it be possible to bring them along? There are about 14/16 of them.
>
> Vivienne
>
> On 22/08/06, Mark Magennis <Mark.magennis at ncbi.ie> wrote:
>> > I will admit that there is a part of me that would enjoy seeing  
>> a room
>> > full of embarrassed webmasters
>>
>> The aim is not to embarrass them Brendan! I imagine that would be
>> counterproductive. It's like the email I have received from time to
>> time from people saying "I notice your website is completely
>> inaccessible and total crap. I can fix it for you for a small fee".
>> Even if I agreed with them, I certainly wouldn't be giving them my
>> business! No, we want it to be a more of a cozy loved-up get together
>> kind of thing.
>> >
>> > There is of course the problem that it is usually a manager  
>> further up
>> > the chain that decides if the website is to be redeveloped, but  
>> that
>> > is a fight for another day. Educating webmasters is certainly a  
>> great
>> > first step.
>>
>> Yes, but it is often more than just the webmaster who comes to these
>> things. We invited a large semi state in the other day for one of our
>> 'user experience' sessions. Three of them came along - the Corporate
>> Affairs Manager, the Access Officer and a webmaster/developer.
>> Anyway, I guess the point of having a number of different events is
>> that the different events can be targeted at people in different
>> positions.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18/08/06, Mark Magennis <Mark.magennis at ncbi.ie> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Aug 2006, at 12:00, Eoin Campbell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > What about an informal practical workshop focusing on Irish  
>> public
>> >> > sector websites,
>> >> > and how they might be improved. Invite webmasters to come  
>> along and
>> >> > subject their own sites to
>> >> > constructive criticism and suggestions.
>> >>
>> >> This is a great idea. How about giving it a "meet the users"  
>> slant.
>> >> We can bring in a few web users with disabilities to  
>> demonstrate how
>> >> they use the web with their assistive technologies and go  
>> through the
>> >> webmasters' own sites with them. We've done this in CFIT and  
>> it's a
>> >> great way of demystifying accessibility and getting people in  
>> touch
>> >> with what it is all about on a practical level.
>> >>
>> >> On 17 Aug 2006, at 15:35, brendan spillane wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I definitely thing this is a great idea, maybe split it up into
>> >> > different levels of workshop.
>> >>
>> >> We could run a number of events at different locations aimed at
>> >> different audiences. CFIT would be interested in running a  
>> "meet the
>> >> users" day in our user testing facility. Donal could launch the  
>> new
>> >> guidelines at the NDA. We could also run some kind of workshop in
>> >> conjunction with the Irish Internet Association. I've spoken to
>> >> Fergal O'Byrne in the IIA recently and he is very interested in
>> >> running accessibility events. In particular, I would like to do an
>> >> event about accessible IT procurement, although Donal will be
>> >> launching the Procurement Toolkit as part of the new guidelines
>> >> content. Maybe we could hold a procurement seminar at the NDA  
>> after
>> >> the guidelines launch?
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >>
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