[Irl-dean] irl-dean discussion

[Eamon Mag Uidhir]

That's an area I've been mulling over. As a natural-born malcontent I  
have highly valued the irl-dean list's neutrality in relation to  
officialdom. The C.E.U.D. looks hard to dissociate from the  
establishment that is funding it and must inevitably co-opt it.

That establishment includes successive governments who feel they are  
beholden to large Seattle companies who provide lots of jobs for  
people who live in South Dublin constituencies, for example, and who  
run a million miles from the mere mention of the words "open" and  
"source" as a consequence.

Whatever brave and presumably sincere talk comes out now about its  
potential for independence, it is very much in the tent peeing out,  
whereas there is a great need for an area outside the tent where all  
kinds of folk can pee anywhere and on anything they damn well like.

If this list is "merged" into a C.E.U.D. list it will be immediately  
necessary to set up another one, bearing a remarkable resemblance to  
the irl-dean list, to continue doing what this list has been doing  
best: letting people of all backgrounds and all manner of reasons to  
be interested in accessibility along design-for-all lines talk  
specifics about making the world accessible, without fear or favour.

It might be simpler if the C.E.U.D. just set up its own list and left  
this one be. If CRC has problems hosting it, that's hardly a  
showstopper given the cost and ease of hosting nowadays.

The points made above are intended to be strictly general and  
theoretical and not intended to cast anything that vaguely resembles  
an aspersion on anybody who has been involved in the proposal to set  
up the C.E.U.D. or to merge the irl-dean list into it.


Eamon




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RESPONSE TO Hugh O'Neill <honeill at crc.ie>:



> A question for Donal - would moving the list over to the CEUD affect  
>  the discussions that can take place on the list?
> For example if there was criticism of government policy?
>
> All the best,
>
> Hugh O'Neill
> Project Co-ordinator,
> Central Remedial Clinic.
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