[Irl-dean] irl-dean discussion

[Dónal Rice]

Hugh/Éamon,
sincere apologies for  the delay in answering this thread.  I have been out
of the country and just spotted this now.

 It is part of NDA's remit to advise government on policy issues relating to
disability in Ireland and it does this as an independent statutory body.

Any list CEUD host will be an open forum for discussion on ALL issues
relating to ICT accessibility and Universal Design, including policy issues
if list members feel the need.

Regards,
Dónal.


On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Eamon Mag Uidhir <eamon at maguidhir.com>
wrote:

>
>
> That's an area I've been mulling over. As a natural-born malcontent I
> have highly valued the irl-dean list's neutrality in relation to
> officialdom. The C.E.U.D. looks hard to dissociate from the
> establishment that is funding it and must inevitably co-opt it.
>
> That establishment includes successive governments who feel they are
> beholden to large Seattle companies who provide lots of jobs for
> people who live in South Dublin constituencies, for example, and who
> run a million miles from the mere mention of the words "open" and
> "source" as a consequence.
>
> Whatever brave and presumably sincere talk comes out now about its
> potential for independence, it is very much in the tent peeing out,
> whereas there is a great need for an area outside the tent where all
> kinds of folk can pee anywhere and on anything they damn well like.
>
> If this list is "merged" into a C.E.U.D. list it will be immediately
> necessary to set up another one, bearing a remarkable resemblance to
> the irl-dean list, to continue doing what this list has been doing
> best: letting people of all backgrounds and all manner of reasons to
> be interested in accessibility along design-for-all lines talk
> specifics about making the world accessible, without fear or favour.
>
> It might be simpler if the C.E.U.D. just set up its own list and left
> this one be. If CRC has problems hosting it, that's hardly a
> showstopper given the cost and ease of hosting nowadays.
>
> The points made above are intended to be strictly general and
> theoretical and not intended to cast anything that vaguely resembles
> an aspersion on anybody who has been involved in the proposal to set
> up the C.E.U.D. or to merge the irl-dean list into it.
>
>
> Eamon
>
>
>
>
>   Éamon Mag Uidhir
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>
> RESPONSE TO Hugh O'Neill <honeill at crc.ie>:
>
>
>
> > A question for Donal - would moving the list over to the CEUD affect
> >  the discussions that can take place on the list?
> > For example if there was criticism of government policy?
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Hugh O'Neill
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-- 
Dónal Rice
Senior ICT Advisor
Centre for Excellence in Universal Design
National Disability Authority
email: drice at nda.ie, drice.nda at gmail.com
Tel: + 353 (0)1 608 0430
http://www.universaldesign.ie
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